new photo blog

i started this blog in 2006, and it's shifted along with my interests through the years. it's been witness to a lot of learning for me...

still, i feel that i need a home for my photography -- so from now on, i'll be posting my pictures on the journal on my reworked website. if you like my photos, you might decide to follow me there!

my first post is here -- check it out!

as for this blog, i'm not sure what will happen. i don't think i'm willing to let it go, and certainly i'll keep it as an archive, but i need some time to figure it out.

for those of you that pop in from time to time, thanks for the visits and encouragement.

Thursday, March 04, 2010

hitchens & fry vs widdecombe on the ten commandments

remember intelligence squared -- where christopher hitchens and stephen fry destroyed the the catholics? well, this is a nice little follow-up:

here are the ten commandments, in their proper order of severity -- and their punishments:

1. i am the lord your god, who brought you out of the land of egypt, out of the house of bondage. you shall have no other gods before me. punishment: genocide, death

2. you shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. for i, the lord your god, am a jealous god, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love me and keep my commandments. punishment: genocide and death

3. you shall not take the name of the lord your god in vain, for the lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain. punishment: death

4. remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the sabbath of the lord your god. in it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. for in six days the lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. therefore the lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it. punishment: death

5. honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the lord your god is giving you. punishment: death

6. you shall not murder. punishment: death but not always

7. you shall not commit adultery. punishment: death

8. you shall not steal. punishment: fine, slavery -- if caught stealing a slave, then death. night thieves, death.

9. you shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. punishment: hate and scorn

10. you shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's. punishment: hate and scorn

(bolds are mine. not that there's a definitive list, as they vary depending on the version or source... you'd think that something this important would be pretty clear everywhere, wouldn't you?)

observe widdecombe thinks the ten commandments are the basis for how we live... observe how she recites them out of order... (fry should not have apologized, but he's a nice guy.) observe how she conveniently leaves out their punishments.

this list contrary to the innate morality most of us have, and most certainly contrary to most societies' constitutions and laws.

video via jesusfetusfajitafishsticks

1 comment:

  1. What a pompous ass she is. "Eternal truths" she says...
    Obviously some humans are either scared to go against their god, or are unable to critically evaluate what they're told to believe.

    The 10 Cs are so appalling not for what they omit but even for what they include. For example, children (4 generations) are to pay for the "sins" of their parents! Wow, what a moral principle!